X200 keeps crashing

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IBM1130
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se unió: 09/24/2020

My Thinkpad x200 is having some problems-
-My wifi crashes daily and can only be restored by a reboot. I suspect this is a hardware issue because networking goes completely dead. I have a replacement card on order, but it will take a few days to get here.
-My system is crashing, sometimes 2-3 times per day. This began with the upgrade to T12, but is happening more often now. T11 never crashed. I think I finally caught a crash on syslog on 8-15-26 at 23:18. Can anyone help interpret? Thanks!

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Zoma
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se unió: 11/05/2024

wonder if that was a specific update that caused that or immediately after you upgraded to Trisquel 12.

IBM1130
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se unió: 09/24/2020

Hello Zoma- I put off the upgrade until six months ago. I should have stuck with T11.

The intermittent crashes started soon after the upgrade. I expected some T12 teething problems, but it keeps happening. I don't remember a particular bad update. Against my better judgement, I did the upgrade by pushing the "upgrade" button instead of doing a clean install. It worked fine. But maybe that caused all these problems.

I have tested the HDD. No problems. I see some memory conflicts in the log, but these are apparently minor, longstanding Linux issues.

Crashes sometimes occur on Youtube vids, but also on an a huge Google doc file I was trying to edit yesterday. Maybe overheating? But processor temps usually are fine.

I recently had to delete my abrowser profile and create a new one. That solved some abrowser issues, but the crashes have occurred on other apps.

Maybe I should try a reinstall, but that carries its own risks/time cost.

Zoma
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se unió: 11/05/2024

If you had a faster computer like X230 thinkpad (using canoeboot ofc) I would have recommended something, but I just remembered you don't have usb 3.0 so nvm.

This being said, Trisquel installs pretty darn fast on fresh installs so you don't need what I had written

Also Trisquel 11 probably is still supported.

Until you figure out whats wrong, stay with trisquel 11.

Btw, if its the kernel, use jxself.org's kernel instead.

IBM1130
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se unió: 09/24/2020

Zoma- thanks! But I think trying to revert to T11 could be a nightmare. Sure it is still supported, but for less than a year. (I think June 2027 is the EOL.) I had no crashes today, so maybe the machine has settled down. I really want to diagnose the cause of the crashes instead just reinstalling.

Geshmy
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se unió: 04/23/2015

Would be good to know what it does when it 'crashes.' Like does it just shut down or is mouse and keyboard frozen?

Is backing up your /home directory to an exterior drive or thumb drive and doing a fresh install out of the question?

Otherwise I wish I had an answer but I did look at your log file and noticed the following.

First thing in your log file was errors related to Udev, D-Bus, backintime

On my PC with Trisquel 12 the command 'systemctl status dbus' results with:
● dbus.service - D-Bus System Message Bus
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.service; static)
Active: active (running) since Mon 2026-08-17 17:48:04 PDT; 41min ago
TriggeredBy: ● dbus.socket
Docs: man:dbus-daemon(1)
Main PID: 1015 (dbus-daemon)
Tasks: 1 (limit: 76979)
Memory: 3.6M (peak: 4.6M)
CPU: 322ms
CGroup: /system.slice/dbus.service
└─1015 @dbus-daemon --system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation --syslog-only

You might run 'systemctl status dbus' in a terminal and see what you get.

Also, 'systemctl list-sockets' shows a socket
/run/dbus/system_bus_socket

And
'systemctl -l | grep udev' reveals:

systemd-udev-trigger.service loaded active exited Coldplug All udev Devices
systemd-udevd.service loaded active running Rule-based Manager for Device Events and Files
systemd-udevd-control.socket loaded active running udev Control Socket
systemd-udevd-kernel.socket loaded active running udev Kernel Socket

Your log finishes up with multiple errors regarding something called isdv-4-serial-inputattach
Do you have touchscreen or trying to hookup a Wacom Tablet?

I noticed ofono.service in your log. I always disable that since I don't use my PC for telephony. Maybe you do.
All I hook up to is Ethernet and a printer via USB (managed by CUPS) so I can shut down avahi.daemon. I also don't use bluetooth for anything so that goes quiet as well.

Best of luck troubleshooting.

IBM1130
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se unió: 09/24/2020

Thanks Geshmy!

I couldn't upload a message with terminal outputs, so I created an odt file.
Thanks for your help!

The machine has two failure modes-

1. Networking dies and is fine on reboot. Seems to happen under heavy load, but not always. I have ordered another ath9k card to see if it works better. Cost was only $7-8 with free shipping/returns.

2. The system suddenly dies when watching videos. It also shut down once this weekend while editing a huge Google Doc. Only some videos are affected. Others seem fine. Suspect a thermal issue, but could be a video codec. This happens on abrowser and Chome. A thermal issue would explain the commonality of the abrowser/Chrome problem.

But here is the temp after a 15 minute video- it's not bad.
X200:~$ sensors -f
thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1: 3600 RPM
fan2: 3600 RPM
CPU: +134.6°F
GPU: +109.4°F
temp3: N/A
temp4: +132.8°F
temp5: +77.0°F
temp6: N/A
temp7: +77.0°F
temp8: N/A

BAT0-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
in0: 12.50 V

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0: +127.4°F (crit = +221.0°F)
Core 1: +125.6°F (crit = +221.0°F)

acpitz-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
temp1: +134.6°F
temp2: +109.4°F

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IBM1130
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se unió: 09/24/2020

***I may have found something.***
Viewing the nypost.com website with abrowser just caused a thermal shutdown. The site is heavily laden with videos and junk. (I run UBO and block all scripts and ads.) When I scrolled down the page, I heard the fan speed increase to high. CPU temp climbed rapidly to 194F and the system froze/crashed before I could react.

As context, the CPU temp runs about 140-150F on a long Youtube video with abrowser. The fan copes easily.

To test other browsers, I then ran Chrome browser and viewed nypost.com. CPUs ran 163-174 (221F is critical), but no thermal problems occurred.

Falkon browser refused to even load nypost.com and returns a generic error message. Other sites like Youtube load fine.

Any comments/suggestions welcome.

IBM1130
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se unió: 09/24/2020

Update- Three hrs later, the NYPOST.com site has been updated and no longer causes a thermal problem. It now runs cool. But how can I prevent future recurrences?

IBM1130
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se unió: 09/24/2020

Well, I turned on thermald. Maybe that will help.

Sudo thermald